Silberjojo Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 Today I had somebody call an Main-Battle-Tank a BRDM. Then it turned out to be a BMP. This is what prompted me to make this post, which should make it easier for everyone to quickly identify Russian Armour. This is important, because it influences how it gets dealt with and which assets are called in for support. So let's hop right in. In General to identify what is trying to kill you, you want to look at: Wheels/Tracks, size of the cannon, Amount of Armour, Attachments around the turret or on top. What do we have: BRDM's: 4 Wheels, Small Gun (capable of 7.62 or 50.cal fire); this may also have a shitton of Rocketpods on top (seldom used tho) BTR's: 8 Wheels, 7.62 and 50.cal gun, may also have a long, small barrel, which is an Autocannon The leftmost BTR is the BTR-80A. It has an Autocannon, similar to the one the Bradley uses. A BRDM (left) and a BTR (right) BMP's: Tracked BMP-1's (left): Big Cannon, which has a reload time, White Rocket/Yellow Launcher on top BMP-2's (middle): Long, thin Autocannon, yellow launcher on top BMP-3's (right): Bulky, Big Cannon with a smaller Coaxial Gun BMD's: Tracked, Significantly smaller than a BMP See Criteria for BMP's These are supposed to be Air dropped easily A BMD-1 (left) and a BMP-1 (right) A BMD-3 (left) and a BMP-3 (right) MBT's: T-34 (left): Small, big Cannon, tall Turret "holding" T-55 (middle): long Chassis, medium sized Turret "holding" T-72 and up (both on the left): Scary af, sturdy looking, armoured Tracks, While we're at it I'm gonna mention AA and Helicopter's as well MI-8 (right): Round, big nose, kinda fat in general, may have Rocekt Pods (called "Hip") MI-24 (middle): always armed, long glassy part for 2 pilots with one having an elevated seat (called "Hind) MI-28 (left): always armed, round ball thing on top of Main Rotor, Big, long Fuck off Cannon below the Pilots, also scary af (called "Havoc") Now for AA ZU-23-2: 2 barreled, static emplacement, 2 man crew ZSU-23-4: tracked, lightly armoured, 4 barreld, Radar capable ZSU-35 Tigris: Futuristic "I eat Helicopters for breakfast" look, 2 barrels (one on either side) Some Tanks have different kinds and amounts of armour. Here's a cute BMD for your troubles 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilZar Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 I think this explains it better http://stores.clothes2order.com/fk-branded/fk-merch/p/know-your-enemy-tee-mens/ 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointForward Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Quick guide for commonly used ground assets: 4 wheels - Armoured scout car 8 wheels - APC (Armoured Personnel Carrier) Tracks, small turret - IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle) Tracks, big turret with barrel overreaching hull - MBT (Main Battle Tank) Edited March 19, 2018 by ThePointForward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Might also be useful to mention the autocannon BTR (80A) and most basic differences between a T-72 and T-90. Also, why not put this in the guides section? Edited March 19, 2018 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silberjojo Posted March 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, ThePointForward said: Quick guide for commonly used ground assets: 4 wheels - Armoured scout car 8 wheels - APC (Armoured Personnel Carrier) Tracks, small turret - IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle) Tracks, big turret with barrel overreaching hull - MBT (Main Battle Tank) This is the quick version I was going for, but then I got carried away lol. 16 minutes ago, Guest said: Also, why not put this in the guides section? I wasn't sure, wether it belonged there. If Staff feel it belongs there, please do move it. Edited March 19, 2018 by Silberjojo a word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadsada Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Silber the one thing you might want to point out is that the 'coaxial gun' on the BMP-3 and BMD-4 isn't actually a coaxial. The damn things have both a big fuck off 100mm cannon AND an autocannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erentar Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, gadsada said: Silber the one thing you might want to point out is that the 'coaxial gun' on the BMP-3 and BMD-4 isn't actually a coaxial. The damn things have both a big fuck off 100mm cannon AND an autocannon. Both have a 100mm cannon, 30mm autocannon and a 14mm "machinegun" Edited March 19, 2018 by erentar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenthar Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, gadsada said: Silber the one thing you might want to point out is that the 'coaxial gun' on the BMP-3 and BMD-4 isn't actually a coaxial. The damn things have both a big fuck off 100mm cannon AND an autocannon. Coaxial just means that it's pointing the same direction as the main gun. The BMP-3/BMD-4 have a main cannon, a coaxial autocannon, and a coaxial machinegun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silberjojo Posted March 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Zenthar said: The BMP-3/BMD-4 have a main cannon, a coaxial autocannon, and a coaxial machinegun. Maybe I should add scary as fuck to that too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blutze Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Buncha points worth mentioning: Unless you're using RHS TOWs, the only difference between the modern tanks is if they have ERA or not; and yeah, you're gonna have to hit the same spot twice if they do. BRDMs, T-34s, windows on BTRs and the rear half of the hull can be penetrated by .50 BMG. Most of them are transport vehicles - APCs for generally hauling infantry around, IFVs for carrying them through a tank battle so they can switch to town clearing at a moments notice. All the transport vehicles, and even some of the MBTs to a degree, are amphibious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointForward Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Blutze said: BRDMs, T-34s, windows on BTRs and the rear half of the hull can be penetrated by .50 BMG. BTR can be penetrated by 7.5×55 mm AP rounds too. 1 hour ago, Blutze said: Most of them are transport vehicles - APCs for generally hauling infantry around, IFVs for carrying them through a tank battle so they can switch to town clearing at a moments notice. IFVs also have direct fire support role. APCs generally not so much (mainly the older ones), nowadays the lines are a bit blurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conga Line of Neckbeards Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Goddamn identification snobs... Just call it ''armour'' and run away or give up on life and remember the good times in your final seconds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarissa Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, Conga Line of Neckbeards said: Goddamn identification snobs... Just call it ''armour'' and run away or give up on life and remember the good times in your final seconds. IFV, AFV and APC. Job done diddled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silberjojo Posted March 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Conga Line of Neckbeards said: Just call it ''armour'' No. It is important to at least know if it is a tank, an MRAP or an IFV. Platoon will potentially mobilize different assets or change up the whole plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointForward Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Silberjojo said: No. It is important to at least know if it is a tank, an MRAP or an IFV. Platoon will potentially mobilize different assets or change up the whole plan. Pretty sure @Conga Line of Neckbeards was making a joke. On the other hand it's true, I've had someone in a squad trying to convince me that the Mi-24 was an armed Mi-8. Guess what? It had gunship shaped cockpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) May be useful to add the Ka-52 "Alligator" as a gunship, and a note that ZUs can be truck-mounted. Maybe the Djigit as static AA as well? And the S-750 "Rhea" if you want to consider it Russian. Edited August 7, 2018 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointForward Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 I'd wait for the RHS update at this point. Ka helis are easy to recognize due to the two rotor design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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