MACV-SOG The Beginning (Scripted Mission)

Raleigh medic please. Have Tags.

Raleigh American Team Lead please, tags.

Sorry, due to IRL work, I had to push this out a week. Just let me know if you cannot make the new date and I'll remove you. @L00_Cyph3r @Root @Griffin68965 @Jerichron

Zero-Three Montagnard LMG, please

Zero-one TL please

1 hour ago, Veagance said:

Zero-one TL please

Zero-One Montagnard Team Lead (TL TAGS, 3ic) (in Raleigh)

Meant that one as I don't think Columbia will be filled

Zero-Two Montagnard Grenadier, please.

I would like to use this as the AAR/Feedback thread. Please give me your good and bad feedback so I can improve my scripted missions. @Veagance @LurkerOne @L00_Cyph3r @Forked @Conga Line of Neckbeards @johnb43 @Malbryn @Root

I think Veagance did an excellent job considering he was thrown into the position at the last minute.
The survival radio might have been used in the way Veagance used it, ie - giving it to his pointman.
Everyone did well, most of the time, not getting bogged down in a gun fight.
I tried to give the helo pilot stuff to do, ie - handle transport, CAS and resupply.

1. Would everyone have liked personal radios vs talking?
2. Would you want an arsenal to adjust your loadouts?
3. Did the helo have enough to do?
4. Was the AI challenging enough?
5. Was the mission too long at 3 hours?
6. Were there too many enemy AI?
7. Was there too much in the briefing?
8. Did you like driven tasks or would you rather have all the tasks at once, except for the hidden ones (Way Station & Convoy)?

This was the first village you investigated, Kang. You broke contact and escaped vie helo right before the enemy swarmed you.

This was the enemy Way Station where we took roughly 50% casualties and got surrounded.

When we were "Clover Leafing" or "Blooming" the road and we successfully avoided almost all of these enemy.

This was when we were on the run on the road after weaving our way through the enemy.

23 minutes ago, kMaN said:

1. Would everyone have liked personal radios vs talking?
2. Would you want an arsenal to adjust your loadouts?
3. Did the helo have enough to do?
4. Was the AI challenging enough?
5. Was the mission too long at 3 hours?
6. Were there too many enemy AI?
7. Was there too much in the briefing?
8. Did you like driven tasks or would you rather have all the tasks at once, except for the hidden ones (Way Station & Convoy)?

1. I had a radio as a grenadier - not sure why, but it didn't provide a benefit, as comms were quite decent.
2. Yes, although the loadout was pretty good. I would like to have tweaked it though (mostly grenade types).
3. Idk
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. Not going to lie: I didn't really read the background part, as I felt it was too long. I read the rest though. Maybe remove some of the pictures to make the tabs shorter?
8. I felt the way it was done was ok. However, if given the option and if I were the lead element, I would have probably done all the stuff to the west first, then headed to the east for the last objective instead of bounding to the east, then back again to the west.

1. Nice to have comms with Scout, and possibly TL.

2. Yes, but very restricted, mostly just letting us shift weights and prioritize ammo.

3. I tried to keep him busy, so i sure hope so.

4. Yes, they employed some decent strategies for Vietnamese peasants, and had strength trough numbers.

5. No it was fine, id just cut down the objectives a bit or start it half an hour earlier to make space between end and main.

6. No, with their skill it was fair, and forced us to employ realistic methods (break contact and "clover leafing")

7. For a last minute read yes, if i  had time to go over it properly no.

8. Driven tasks are a nice way to make sure that the mission progresses in order, but it restricts tactical freedom in terms of movement and bypassing to come back to later.

Overall a very fun mission, with good people to play with. Would play again, also i wonder if we could do something like this but more modern era, such as the invasion of Afghanistan, or the behind the lines work during the start of operation Iraqi freedom.

1. I prefer what we had earlier (TL and Pointman/Scout having Radios) and everyone else just shouting.

2. A heavily restricted arsenal would be nice to choose between mixture of different ammunition/weapon/grenade types and prioritize weights.

3. N/A

4. The AI was challenging when we were confronting it, however, I expected more mines/traps to catch us off-guard. It was also a nice addition in enabling the AI to hear us and move in on our position.

5. Nope

6. Nope

7. I didn't fully read the briefing - For me personally, I saw it as: Investigate 3x sites, investigate couple of roads.

8. I'd personally prefer all tasks at once so we can plan better and coordinate in terms of completing objectives either as the whole ground like a sweep or split into teams (or even squads).

Overall I actually liked the mission a lot and will play again

PS: Starting intro was good, please teach

1 hour ago, Veagance said:

Overall a very fun mission, with good people to play with. Would play again, also i wonder if we could do something like this but more modern era, such as the invasion of Afghanistan, or the behind the lines work during the start of operation Iraqi freedom.

1. Any parts of the invasion of Afghan specifically?
2. Behind the lines work in OP Iraqi Freedom, ie - Special Operations stuff?

 

16 minutes ago, Root said:

PS: Starting intro was good, please teach

 

 

6 hours ago, L00_Cyph3r said:

2. Would you want an arsenal to adjust your loadouts?
As a pilot, I was missing map tools, being able to have some limited freedom would be nice (change glasses or something)

The pilot and co-pilot for the slick & CAS helo used the same gear script. Map Tools was in your inventory and a vanilla map was left on the floor in front of both so you could swap it out for the SOG PF map. Map Tools doesn't work on the SOG PF maps yet, but should be fixed on the next update. You might have missed that part of the briefing when I updated Veagance. It was also in the briefing, albeit I know you didn't read it because you were rushing home because you forgot about my mission!!  🤣 😭

6 hours ago, L00_Cyph3r said:

Overall, I enjoyed the mission, this definitely makes me more interested in making something this myself soon:tm:, especially since people opted for the Iraqi stuff which I kinda need to continue one day. I'll be on touch with you probably when it comes to that

Once you have built your first mission using Malbryn's MalFramework, it's easy to put out missions quickly. Especially, if you are sticking to a similar genre, like an Iraq campaign. We can also collaborate on such projects! 

During the verbal AAR/Feedback immediately after the mission, someone asked about not encountering any traps/punji spikes, etc. I tried implementing JohnnyBoy's Punji Mace Trap, but it doesn't work in a dedicated environment.
 

14 hours ago, kMaN said:

 

For afghanistan its quite a long time period, im not really sure what stretches recon was the most practical for, maybe during the early invasion or during offensives into new taliban controlled areas?

As for iraq id imagine the SOF thing, as these missions will have more of an SOF oriented playstyle (small units with organic air support doing precision stuff)